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Dernière modification par Titoine (05/12/2007 à 18h46)

Calanor - 12/4/2007 9:58 AM PST

Armagedon a écrit :

so if we need to test before patch we are not ready for have update right ?

it's for december or januray ? or februray ?

You sure do live up to your nick Test server will be up for 2 weeks, I think Leo has stated this before if not then its new news, but the test server would be up for 2 weeks then it would go to the live servers. This is as long as we are content with the update and the changes and there isn't anything we need to alter or retest.

Achilles a écrit :

i see it comming ... santa beards having con7 (bold + additional stats) dropping everywhere /wave

brand new str7 masks in item mall having the description :"A powerful mask which says: Die Artisan, die!" /wiggle

oh, and of corse ver143 is comming, just like before in sept, oct and nov /!

sorry for my excessive enthusiasm /~_^

We talked about a new santa beard today, but decided to stick with what we had already planned. Its going to be a dark christmas and the presents should be a unique suprise. We are not going to say anything at all about whats going to be in it till its in-game, make it a fun suprise.

Kitty a écrit :

I have a small question for the test server. Do I have to have an active account to be able to go on the test server? If yes, what if I reactive it after it's already been implemented?

Yes, you will have to have an active account. Its going to be setup the same way the live servers are. If you wanted to check it out you will have to have an active account.

Calanor - 12/4/2007 11:21 AM PST

HolyEagle a écrit :

Sparx a écrit :

Does Trial accounts count? ;pRandom question

The same rules that apply for the real server apply for the test server so yes you can try it out with a trial account.

HolyEagle is correct.

Leonis - 12/4/2007 11:29 AM PST

Achilles a écrit :

question, what is the success-rate meaning??

The success rate is attached to the status effect the skill may have. Stun, Atk Down, Def Down, etc.

for example Soul Wreck on level 4 has 72%-90% .. does the client (or server w/e) calculate a random value between 72 and 90 to get a percent value which is used again for another random-value to find out, if the effect happen or not?? isnt it a bit needless overhead? *lol*

It is the success rate the skill's effect will actually go off against the target, when using. Soul Wreck. So you have at most a 90% chance it will stun, while at worst it will be a 72% chance.

@calaaniwygen
Yes, the dodge up buff was removed and replaced with the reflect status.

There are several future design plans in works to help give that diversity within the 1 Hand skill tree, we tend to have with all the other classes. We just wanted to fix up what we had now and then work on future additions later.

Achilles a écrit :

Leonis a écrit :

Repose - Increase HP recovery rate while resting

does it mean, this passive only works while sitting??

The description may need to be updated. The effect of  HP recovery is that it increases the natural amount of HP recovered with each "tick" of regeneration. Now, that tick interval is halved when you're sitting, so you would regenerate quicker then if you were standing. But the HP Recovery passive does not only apply when you are sitting.

Leonis - 12/4/2007 2:57 PM PST

jughead a écrit :

Leonis a écrit :

The effect of a gun is a single target stun, so it was given a slightly larger range, because the area effect of the Launcher's stun. Stunning a single target from afar, or getting a little closer and stunning a group is what it comes down to in a decision of combat.

lemme get this straight.. are you saying that launcher bourgs' stun is AOE now? how come its not stated on the skill list?
and one more thing? is Cannon Splash Burst still an AOE skill or not anymore?

All of the Launcher skills should have a small AoE to them. However, you're right their Aoe range is not listed. This is a small oversight soon to be corrected.

Leonis - 12/4/2007 3:38 PM PST

Pteppic a écrit :

Thanks leo thats good to hear These new items sound interesting, cant wait to see some of those. Btw, just out of curiousity, will the test server use the existing client, or will it use its own seperate client?

We are working on creating a new client specifically for use on our test server.

Sid07.UF a écrit :

Will these items be obtainable through item mall or an event? Or will they be added to the client permenantly?

They are being created specifically for Christmas and will be available so long as we run the event. There are some other items also being worked on for the Item Mall as well.

Leonis - 12/4/2007 4:18 PM PST

Nanami a écrit :

Leonis, a few additional questions:

1. are the Level Requirements of the cleric skill "Summon Firegon" correctly listed ?
level 145, 160, 175, 175, 175 look strange...

You're right it does look strange. But that is also because it is a mistake, the level requirements will be corrected shortly.

2. question about Wand Mastery and Magic Battle Mastery:
The Attack Power gained from these two skills does not stack up.
if you learn Wand Mastery lvl 18 and Magic Battle Mastery lvl 1,
you only get 23 AP, not 20+23 AP...

so i wonder if the MP Recovery Rate stack up or not.
if you learn Wand Mastery lvl 18 and Magic Battle Mastery lvl 1,
do you get MP Recovery 1  - or -   MP Recovery 5 + 1

I don't know why you think Wand Mastery and Magic Battle Mastery don't stack, they do. The MP recovery would stack as well.

Leonis - 12/5/2007 10:53 AM PST

alan shires a écrit :

Leo why has the ap and cool down been changed so much on icy hailstorm, it's supose to be the muse's specil move and its been that way ever since rose na opened.

Even in pre evo it was the muse's specil move only differnce was it was called permoforst. Its going to be sad to see such a powerful aoe turn into nothing.

And at first i was shocked to see almost 1450 attack power taken off permofrost chill but thinking about it i kinda like it.
With the shorter cooldown it means the attack can be used more often and its still pretty powerful.

The AoE still is powerful, but its power comes from the damage it does to groups. The idea behind the power of an AoE is the overall damage inflicted to a group versus trying to accomplish the same amount of damage with single targeting skills. If the AoE divided damage between targets in a group, then having a stronger attack power would make sense. But since the same attack power is being applied to each individual target, the power of the AoE shouldn't necessarily out weigh the power of a single focused attack (Permafrost Chill).

Example:
Using your AoE you take a monster with 1500 hit points, make 5 of them. With a single AoE cast, you do 1000 damage to them all.
5 monsters, each take 1000 damage. That's 5000 damage in a single cast. Cast once more, all 5 monsters are now defeated. 2 casts.

Using the single target skill, same monster. The damage of the skill does 1500 a straight kill per cast, 4 more monsters left. 5 casts.

The cool down time reduction allows for the skill to be used more frequently now, so there is a better use for crowd control. The same was done for the Mage's AoE, the power was reduced as was the cool down timer. For single target skills, the power will be higher because it is focusing a single cast effort at a single target. There's also MP consumption differences that you may want to consider as well. Believe me, we took a great deal into consideration when making these adjustments because we knew that the reduction in power is an immediate complaint. But on the other side, a huge complaint was the long cool down time. So in balance to reducing the cool down significantly, the power would need to be reduced as well. Modifying the MP cost was simply done by scale of skill power. If we left the attack power so high, the MP cost would have likely been 80~90% your MP and that's no fun running our of MP after 1 cast.

Leonis - 12/5/2007 3:23 PM PST

clericpwn a écrit :

@leonis
will everyone be getting a skill reset?

There will not be a forced skill reset from this update. The question of whether there will be one offered or not has not yet been answered. We are considering several options because we are very much aware that the changes to the skill system are numerous.

Nothing has been announced in regards to this yet. Please watch for an official announcement.

Niluje a écrit :

- Les "taux de réussite" (success rate) qui sont affichés dans les listes de skills ne sont que le taux de réussite de l'effet du skill (Stun, Atk Down, Def Down, etc), pas des dommages causés par le skill (Skill Power)
Par exemple le stun de Soul Wreck au level 4 à un taux de réussite de 72%-90%, donc au mieux on a 90% de chances que le stun marche, et au pire 72% de probabilité que le stun ne marche pas
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Il y a un truc qui me chiffone, sur les % de reussite
moi j en ai compris cela.

"donc au mieux on a 90% de chances que le stun marche" => donc au mieux 10% qu il ne marche pas.
et au pire 72% de probabilité que le stun marche => donc au pire 28% qu il ne marche pas.

le flou ? pas c pas flou c'est le future XD

moi chui étoné qu'il se prennent autant la tete sur des % sachant que rien ne change bcp lol
ca va etre beau ce patch fait par 2 GM qui se prennent pour des DEV

XD

ba si je te le dit que ca chage pas bcp ^^ sont patch de daube la va rien changer au jeu le patch prevu pr noel 2008 p-e masi la faut pas rever...

moi j'ai rien vu et je pense qu'ils sont extrement long et de tt facon une fois le patch posé on en sera à attendre l'autre patch quoi kil se passe au 143.
80% des futures choses dont il parle sera fait plus tard non ? ben voila c'est reglé.

et arrete de me saouler avec le fait de payer ou psa ca me regarde, je rale et alors j'en ai pas le droit parcque tu la decider ? mdr la quand même non ? té le beauf de sarko ou koi XD

CTR a écrit :

80% des futures choses dont il parle sera fait plus tard non ? ben voila c'est reglé.

Euh t'es sûr d'avoir lu ? Les trucs dont il parle dans les Q/R ça concerne à 80% ce qu'il va y avoir dans la 143, pas ce qu'il va y avoir après
En plus le truc que tu as commenté (le truc "flou" auquel on comprend rien parce qu'il a expliqué comme une merde (ou alors parce qu'il sait pas non plus *ahem ahem*)), ça concerne la 143... donc je me demande si t'as vraiment lu les Q/R xD

CTR a écrit :

et arrete de me saouler avec le fait de payer ou psa ca me regarde, je rale et alors j'en ai pas le droit parcque tu la decider ? mdr la quand même non ? té le beauf de sarko ou koi XD

Bah je trouve ça un peu con de parfaitement savoir qu'il va rien y avoir de nouveau, de quand même repayer, et après de se plaindre que tu paies pour rien alors que c'est bien toi qui a décidé de payer lol
Mais bon c'est sûr tu fais ce que tu veux... mais bon voilà quoi

Titoine a écrit :

Perso, j'ai l'impression que les joueurs de ROSE sont des éternels insatisfaits

Moi ça fait longtemps que j'ai dépassé le stade de l'impression.. mdr

Titoine a écrit :

je vois pas vraiment pourquoi tout le monde est tant excité à l'idée de ne plus pouvoir porter les armes qu'ils ont actuellement ^^.

xD vu comme ça, c'est sûr que c'est pas trop excitant. Mais on peut aussi le voir autrement : la 143 ça signifie :
- que les jobs seront plus équilibrés que maintenant
- qu'il n'y aura plus des skills à la con avec des cooldowns de fou qui rendent ça super relou des fois (faut l'avouer quand même..)
- que juste derrière, y aura des trucs nouveaux
- que plus loin y aura : cg, unions, maps, planètes etc
En fait c'est surtout les 2 derniers qui excitent tout le monde je pense >_> lol

Mais bon, faut essayer de pas trop s'exciter parce que il faut bien vous mettre dans la tête que, en tenant compte des 2 semaines de test sur le serveur de test, y aura aucune mise à jour sur le serveur principal avant le 20 décembre (miracle si c'est le cas) donc plutôt le 27 (ahem)

Le pire c'est que c'est possible >_<